Rydhsys rag Kernow lemmyn?
Bubble — By Fulup Hosking on July 26, 2010 7:00 amNATIONALITY exists in the minds of people, its only conceivable habitat. Outside people’s minds there can be no nationality, because nationality is a way of looking at oneself, not an entity in itself. Common sense is able to detect it, and the only human discipline that can describe and analyse it is psychology. This awareness, this sense of nationality, this national sentiment, is more than a characteristic of a nation. It is nationhood itself.
The creation of the European Union, along with other pan-European bodies such as the Council of Europe, has produced a need for greater regionalisation, decentralisation and subsidiarity in the organisation of a European politic. In tandem with this new regionalism both the European Union and Council of Europe have developed human rights legislation specifically aimed at the protection of minority groups, their languages and their cultures. Taken together the above developments seem to promise a much brighter future for the national minorities and historic nations which abound on the European continent (more on the national minorities of Europe can be found here).
The Cornish are an ethnic group and historic nation of the southwest of Great Britain. They have their own lesser-used Celtic language, related to Breton and Welsh, and more distantly to Scottish, Manx and Irish Gaelic. Alongside the Cornish language, there are specific sports and sporting tradition: Cornish music, dance, cuisine and a distinct political culture. These phenomena are all bound up together with a popular self perception as being other than English, as being Cornish Britons.
The ethnic data from the 2009 Cornish schools survey showed that 34% of children consider themselves to be Cornish rather than British or English. The results from the 2001 UK population census show over 37,000 people hold a Cornish identity instead of English or British. On this census, to claim to be Cornish, you had to deny being British, by crossing out the British option and then write ‘Cornish’ in the “other” box. This does not represent a mere clerical error or poorly thought through wording. This represents a denial of the right of the Cornish to describe themselves in terms of their identity. It might seem trite to complain about something that happened years ago, but the 2001 census will remain relevant until the next one in 2011. How many more people would have described themselves as Cornish if they did not have to deny being British or if there had been a specific Cornish tick box? How many people knew that writing ‘Cornish’ in the “other” box was an option? This was extremely poorly publicised. How many ticked British but feel Cornish British would have been closer to the truth.
Over the last few years various Cornish groups and individuals have been campaigning for the Cornish to be recognised for protection under the Council of Europe’s Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities (FCNM). Such recognition would be a powerful tool to ensure correct treatment and protection of the Cornish national minority and its culture. The UK’s Commission for Racial Equality in its shadow report on the FCNM produced in March 2007 advised the government that the treaty could be extended to protect Cornish culture and also raised concerns about the lack of legal equality for minorities in the UK. Recently the Council of Europe has also suggested that the FCNM could be extended to include the Cornish.
This officially sanctioned silence on the existence of a Cornish identity must stop. Why will the government not ask the Office of National Statistics to include a Cornish tick box on the 2011 census? The Life in the United Kingdom handbook, required reading for all who wish to immigrate to the UK, quotes the census heavily when describing the regions and ethnic diversity of the UK. Why are the Cornish not mentioned once? Why has UK government so far blocked all attempts at ensuring the Cornish are recognised under the FCNM and ignored the advice of the CRE and CoE?
In 2008, a group of Cornish people decided that enough was enough and started to collect funds for a court action to challenge the Government’s decision to exclude the Cornish from the FCNM. The purpose of the fund was to pay much of the costs involved in pursuing a legal action against the UK Government. The action was deemed necessary after government’s constant, dogmatic and wholly irrational refusal to include the Cornish within an international treaty designed to, among other things, introduce educational pluralism in their traditional homeland and thus bring to an end the forced assimilation of the Cornish people. Sadly, not enough pledges of money were forthcoming.
Currently a new campaign has been launched to challenge the Commonwealth Games Federation’s refusal to allow a Cornish team, the reasoning being that if constitutional territories such as Jersey, Guernsey and the Ilse of Man are allowed a team each then so should the Duchy and historic nation of Cornwall.
With the arrival of the New Labour government in the United Kingdom in the mid 1990s, a process was begun that resulted in devolved governmental bodies being given to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. At this time the Government also made the offer of devolution to any ‘English region’ that could prove an interest. Following a popular campaign for a Cornish assembly, supported by a petition of 50,000 signatures, the government reneged on its promise, adding that only what it considered to be a ‘region’ could be offered an assembly. For ministers, Cornwall was but a subdivision of a larger and somewhat artificial Southwest region. For many Cornish residents, however, Cornwall is one of the six Celtic nations of the European Atlantic arc and a constitutional royal duchy.
Over the last three centuries, Cornwall has gone from being on the leading edge of the industrial revolution to being one of the poorest regions of Europe. In recent history Kernow has qualified for Objective One Funding from the EU, as have many regions of the former communist block. Today little has changed, with Cornwall still qualifying for European funding. Low wages, unskilled ‘McJobs’, poverty, social problems, drugs, and rocketing housing prices provide an often hidden face to the optimistically-named “English” Rivera. Coupled with this, Cornwall has seen the centralisation of services, institutions and government bodies, followed by the skilled jobs they entail, out of the Duchy. This process has been much to the benefit of various undemocratic and faceless ‘South West of England’ unelected governmental bodies and quangos.
To begin to address the above problems, many in Cornwall, including Cornish nationalists Mebyon Kernow, have called for decision making powers to be devolved to a Cornish body of governance. Cornwall Council’s February 2003 MORI Poll showed 55% in favour of a democratically-elected, fully-devolved regional assembly for Cornwall, (an increase from 46% in favour in a 2002 poll). In 2000, The Cornish Constitutional Convention launched a campaign that resulted in a petition signed by 50,000 people calling for a fully devolved Cornish assembly. The campaign generated support from across the political spectrum in Cornwall. To date it has been the largest expression of popular support for devolution in the whole of the United Kingdom. The UK government has ignored all requests for greater Cornish home rule.
So it must be asked why UK governments are so stubborn when it comes to giving the Cornish any form of devolution or recognition? Perhaps the answer rests in out constitutional subsoil.
Even if the UK government, Duchy authority, or history curriculum are loathed to touch the subject, Cornwall does in fact have a distinct constitutional history as a Duchy with an autonomous parliamentary legal system called the Stannaries. The Duchy is a “well-managed private estate which funds the public, charitable and private activities of The Prince of Wales and his family. The Duchy consists of around 54,648 hectares of land in 23 counties, mostly in the South West of England”.
However this seems to fly in the face of the 19th century legal arguments of Duchy officials, which defeated the UK Crown’s aspirations of sovereignty over the Cornish foreshore. The Duchy of Cornwall at that time argued that the Duke had sovereignty of Cornwall and not the Crown. On behalf of the Duchy in its successful action against the Crown, which resulted in the Cornwall Submarine Mines Act of 1858, Sir George Harrison (Attorney General for Cornwall) made this submission:
That Cornwall, like Wales, was at the time of the Conquest, and was subsequently treated in many respects as distinct from England.
That it was held by the Earls of Cornwall with the rights and prerogative of a County Palatine, as far as regarded the Seignory or territorial dominion.
That the Dukes of Cornwall have from the creation of the Duchy enjoyed the rights and prerogatives of a County Palatine, as far as regarded seignory or territorial dominion, and that to a great extent by Earls.
That when the Earldom was augmented into a Duchy, the circumstances attending to it’s creation, as well as the language of the Duchy Charter, not only support and confirm natural presumption, that the new and higher title was to be accompanied with at least as great dignity, power, and prerogative as the Earls enjoyed, but also afforded evidence that the Duchy was to be invested with still more extensive rights and privileges.
The Duchy Charters have always been construed and treated, not merely by the Courts of Judicature, but also by the Legislature of the Country, as having vested in the Dukes of Cornwall the whole territorial interest and dominion of the Crown in and over the entire County of Cornwall.
In the report The Cornish Question, by Mark Sandford (published by the Constitutional Unit, School of Public Policy, University College London in 2002, it states that: “The existence of the Duchy of Cornwall was once of constitutional significance, but is now essentially a commercial organisation”. Considering that this commercial organisation is the largest landowner in Cornwall and claims to be nothing but a private estate and company, you would think it reasonable to expect there to be an official date of change-over from an official body of constitutional significance into a purely private commercial organisation.
The charters that created the Duchy, the first of 1337 being published in 1978 as Statutes in Force Constitutional law, give the Duke the powers of: “The King’s Writ and Summons of Exchequer” throughout Cornwall. These powers of the Duke of Cornwall represent the powers of government and they are certainly not what you would expect from a simple private landed estate. Research reveals that the public-spirited Crown Estate provides cultural support and housing for the public everywhere in the UK except Cornwall. It is also subject to the Freedom of Information Act. The Duchy of Cornwall is the analogous body in Cornwall but, in a departure from its historical role, it now claims to be a private estate with exemption from the Freedom of Information Act 2000. A stratagem designed to deter investigation into Duchy constitution and Cornish history perhaps?
In the Cornwall Submarine Mines Act 1858 it states that the Duchy of Cornwall is a ‘territorial possession’ of Britain. So, sometime between 1858 and the present day, a territory of Britain transformed into a private commercial organisation, when, if at all, did this happen? When Cornish MP Andrew George raised questions on June 16, 1997 about the affairs of the Duchy, he was told that there is an injunction in the House of Commons that prevents such questions being raised.
These are questions that should be considered important enough to be answered by someone in authority, whether that authority is a Government office or the Duchy of Cornwall. Claiming a national territory and making it your own private business while denying the indigenous population its history and identity is no small affair. An attempt has been made to separate the Duchy of Cornwall, which is not subject to English tax legislation, from the territory of Cornwall with the argument that the Duchy has a separate existence to the geographical area of Cornwall and holds property outside the area. The argument is spurious and flies in the face of the Duchy case of 1856. It seems no coherent description of the Duchy is available and all attempts to obtain a clear picture of this strange Janus-faced body have been ignored.
In present day Cornwall the playing field is tilted against the indigenous Cornish identity. The impression promoted is that the Cornish nation has only ever been an insignificant sub-division of some awe-inspiring, all-powerful, fully homogeneous, fixed and eternal England. With the English education system encouraging English nationalism in Cornwall at the expense of the indigenous Cornish identity, the exploitation of Cornwall has become acceptable to the state while the absence from English law of the international right to an enforceable equality before the law has protected the Duchy authority from an effective legal challenge. The result is that the Duke of Cornwall’s fortune from Cornish assets continues to relieve England of paying tax to support the heir to the throne while all moves that would empower the Cornish, hence threatening the Duchy, have been stifled. The Duchy of Cornwall Human Rights Association website explores these Cornish constitutional issues in much greater detail. Equally the revived Cornish Stannary Parliament acts as a pressure group focusing on Cornish rights and constitutional issues.
When the UK government and Duchy authority finally decide to be honest about the autonomous position of the Duchy of Cornwall within the UK perhaps then an open debate about Cornish devolution and our future governance can begin. We await with interest, if also a little cynicism, a positive response to the Cornish question from the new coalition government.
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Cegog: that Oppenheimer study is flawed (according to geneticists) and is quoted mostly by BNP-ers and the like.
and no, “English” wasn’t spoken by SE tribes before the Roman invasion. Complete bo****ks. They spoke Brythonic, then moved into Latin. (ie by the time the Saxon tribes started landing, they would have met toga’d-up, villa-living, latin speaking ROMANS – which is why they called them such).
But since you’re quoting one study as fact, I’ll quote you another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j617mImHVvk
Lol, thans Al. I was just quoting from one source from wikipedia
…….the main point I was trying to prove was to our friend Senn is that all scientists are ALL happy that genes of celts are different from saxons, and that there are still differences today.
The wikipedia entry on the subject is rather interesting in all fairness and quotes lots of scientists. I just picked one that you seem to dislike………….and for good reason. I should have quoted the rest of them
I’m not qualified to discuss genes, only to the fact that all scientists have proven different genes.
And anyway, genes are not important. If you are choose to be Welsh or whoever, then you are. It seems that Senn, by linking nationality with genes, has not moved his/her vision of nationality to the 21st century.
Seems that Senns idea of nationality stopped developing at the height if the British empire, and there it stayed
Bringing genetics in as an arguament in support of independance for parts of the UK can’t be anything other than a spectacular own goal. The vast majority of those for cringe and I expect many of those against are dellighted,
It’s the wrong tactic and much more importantly it’s plain wrong.
Just to consider the scientific aspect. There’s a male genetic marker prevolent in western Britain that indicates an unbroken 10 000 year paternal lineage back to the original post glaciation colonisers from Iberia. If you think possession of such a genetic atriibute gives you claim on a part of the UK then that’s your business. Be aware however that, just as one example, in all probability the same genetic marker is also possessed by many West Indian and African American men “courtesy” of slave owners from or decended from men from western Britain.
Regarding Oppenhiemer’s work. He chose to disclose his findings in the form of a book rather than a scientific paper. This meant that the usual rigorous peer review of such work did not occur. His theory on English and German language evolution has been comprehensivelly de-bunked by expert linguists.
Oppenheimer is not a linguistc expert and “by trade” not a genetisist.
Here goes – Third attempt ( too much caffeine or too little).
Anyone bringing in genetics as an arguamt for independance for part of the UK effectively scores a spectacular own goal. The vast majority of those for cringe and I expect many of those against are delighted.
It’s the wrong tactic and much more importantly it’s plain wrong. The only good thing is that it identifies people to be wary of.
There’s a male genetic marker that’s prevolent in western Britain that indicates a 10 000 year unbroken paternal lineage back to the original post glaciation colonisers from Iberia. If you think possession of such a marker gives you claim to some art of the UK that’s your business. He aware though that, just as one example, that in all probability you share that marker with many West Indian and African American men “courtesy” of slave owners from or decended from men from western Britain.
Regarding Oppenheimer’s book, it’s revealing that he chose to disclose his finding in a book rather than a scientific paper which could have been peer reviewed. Also his theory on English and German language evolution was comprehensively debunked by expert linguists. Oppenheimer is not an expert linguist and “by trade” on a genetisist.
CapM
Genetics were brought up by Senn as an argument against Cornish/Welsh independence.
Own goal by Senn, methinks…
And anyway, genetics are irrelevant as you choose your nationality. I dont know why Senn brought it up
Senn wrote:
“Cegog I cannot be bothered to read up on such a pitiful subject as an English county wanting Nationalism”
@Senn
You realise here you are falling into the trap of state sponsored English nationalism which runs counter to the way many people feel about their identity in Cornwall. Are you happy to be an English nationalist? It seems so. In fact you seem to alternate between English and British nationalism on a regular basis.
Equally if Cornwall is simply an English county then you are going to have to address the points I’ve raised concerning its constitutional status.
Could also explain, as I’ve already asked, your continued support for UK state-nationalism when really we should be concentrating on creating a federal Europe.
Senn wrote:
“More important subjects like poverty, environmentalism and health. I will restrict my comments in future to these subjects rather than getting into abstract debate”
What a very silly argument. If you are serious about such issues then they would be best dealt with by a European or World government not outdated nations states created in previous centuries. Again I ask you: why do you cling to the UK state which prevents the creation of a real Europe that could effectively deal with such problems?
Devolve certain powers down to regions and nations such as Cornwall and devolve others powers up to a federal government. No need for the UK.
I would also like to say that I put little stock (no pun intended) in genetics. The first paragraph of my essay should tell you all that. My national identity is they way I perceive myself and has nothing to do with my DNA. It’s an ethnic identity, but ethnicity is not necessarily based on race or DNA.
@ Philip,
I couldnt agree more …………………with everthing you said
I would also like to point out to Senn……..by linking genes to nationalism, you forget about the large % of ethnic minorities who support Welsh independence and consider themselves Welsh. The fact there isn’t a tickbox in the census to reflect this is a disgrace. You can be ‘Black British’ but not ‘Black Welsh’. Talk about false nation building by the UK.
If you consider yourself as Welsh/Cornish/Whoever…then thats what you are.
……..”According to the principles of civic nationalism the nation is not based on common ethnic ancestry, but is a political entity, whose core is not ethnicity. This civic concept of nationalism is exemplified by Ernest Renan in his lecture in 1882 “What is a nation?”, where he defined the nation as a “daily plebiscite dependent on the will of its people to continue living together”.[25]“
Talk of ‘genes’ is inherently racist. I know a black Cornishman very proud of his roots – born to a Cornishwoman – with his colour donated by a member of another repressed minority, a coloured soldier serving in the Second World War.
Denying the existence of a people is useful to those who wish to trample all over their rights and ignore their economic deprivation.
And here’s the view of the man who runs Cornwall:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1299099/Prince-Charles-My-duty-save-world.html
At least you’re safe in such hands…
Yeah, but you know what? As much as I despise the Monarchy, and particularly the title “Prince Of Wales” and all that comes with it, I must say at least he’s can stand up and say what he believes in, no matter how much he is ridiculed and blasted. I’d rather our politicians were more like that, have the courage of their convictions, instead of “what’s cool this week?” vote-grabbing yes men/women.
Which, incidently, is why people like Adam Price and Leanne Wood have respect, and why people like Peter Hain doesn’t. It isn’t so much what they do or say, but the way they say it (or don’t say it), and then stand by what they say.
So Charles may be a fruit-loop to y’all, but if he thinks he has a mission to turn us all green… brilliant! Go for it.
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