I think Jack maybe right in that if Carwyn wins, Brian and Jane may have to take one for the team along with Gwenda. I think Welsh Labour does need a shake up and a new look and this is a perfect time and give the new office holders a few weeks to get to grips with their briefs.

Plaid factor is a bit more problematic; Elin is doing a good job; Alun Ffred we will skirt over; IWJ well whether he’s doing a good job or not, its an area I think Labour wouldn’t want to touch even with asbestos reinforced oven gloves!

I’ve let the above comment through, but I won’t be allowing further such remarks from anyone. It should be obvious to anyone reading Daran’s piece that it was a serious attempt to analyse what a post-Rhodri Cabinet should look like. The single line about an anonymous blogger’s attitude was not the point of the piece, and shouldn’t dominate the discussion.

We do appreciate your supportive comments about WH, and you’re free to continue to contribute. But Daran has now accounted for this remark and it’s time to draw stumps on the whole thing. The who’s who of the anonymous Welsh blogosphere is about the most boring subject I can think of.

Daran you run a good site that contributes more to Welsh political debate in a day than these party stooges have ever done. Don’t let them bully you like they do everyone else.

Che – As I wrote, I over-stepped the mark. I was reacting to an undercurrent that has been around for years which particularly pokes at some women in the Assembly. It is not just a product of the blogosphere either. The thrust of what I was trying to say, albeit clumsily as it turns out, was that this post added little to an important debate in relation to Huw’s Cabinet-making potential:
http://guerrilla-welsh-fare.blogspot.com/2009/10/post-leadership-contest-cabinet.html

It has little to do with narrative. Indeed, looking back at my article I think drawing in the views of bloggers detracted rather than added to the central narrative which I was trying to convey. Certainly, one relatively throwaway line has become the key feature of a column which I had hoped was trying to talk about so much more. I understand how that has happened, and will try and be more careful in future.

Don’t know why you apologised Daran. Anonymous smear merchants like “Che” should be the ones apologising for all the people they whose characters they regularly smear.

I was annoyed at Daran because I assumed, wrongly it has turned out, that he would have the intelligence and independence of mind to separate the views of others and what was actually said when making conclusions. I guess that didn’t fit the narrative of the post he was going for.

As for your comment. I shall take it as a complement that I have suitably exposed how bad a job Kirsty Williams is doing.

There’s a nasty misogyny running through many of your posts, and the real bile is often aimed at working class women. Now that may be because all the working class women in the Assembly are thick useless, or it could be because you just think they are.

Frankly, as an anonymous blogger with a clear agenda and an obvious dislike of most female, non-Plaid politicians, I’m not sure you have the right to start bandying accusations about. Daran commented on something – which many other people already have – namely, your obvious beef with women. To try and question the impartiality of this site as means of diverting attention away from your obvious prejudice is particularly pathetic.

Daran – you shouldn’t apologise for what you said – “Che” lies, muckspreads and misrepresents what he views as the opposition on a daily basis, all from a comfortable position of anonymity. Just take a look back through some of his hateful attacks on Kirsty Williams over the past year or so. The guy is a bully and a coward. Let him stick to his slander on his site, you should stick to the commentary on yours.