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	<title>Comments on: Carwyn pledges to lead from the front</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Llwyd</title>
		<link>http://waleshome.org/2009/11/carwyn-pledges-to-lead-from-the-front/comment-page-1/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Llwyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff

I think you&#039;re not only being too cynical but thinking too much &quot;big power politics&quot; when it comes to climate change: this isn&#039;t nuclear disarmament we&#039;re talking about, with a noisy but almost entirely uninfluential public. Climate change is being tackled  - and will need to be tackled - at many many different levels from individuals to corporates to local and regional governments as well as the big states. Do you not think the views of consumers impacted on M and S&#039;s Plan A? Doesn&#039;t express business concern over global warming impact on Tory or indeed Labour party thinking? And of course the actions of the Governors of a number of US states have impacted strongly on the centre and left of US political thinking at national level. 

There is no nirvana on Climate (although the Indians will listen to Obama and indeed are very clear about what they want to cut a deal) but a whole lot of different interconnected actions and Carwyn or whoever wins next month will have a role to play. They will be the nearest Wales has to a voice on this issue (outwards and inwards), they will decide which of the difficult initial radical choices Wales takes on sustainability (and any sensible UK govnt will be encouraging trials at big city/devolved nation level) and will obviously take a key role in how far the response to climate change impacts acrss a range of domestic policies. Carwyn&#039;s stance is arguably smart politics too, climate is a totem issue for many educated young people who will be voting in increased numbers as they get older and as the symptoms of the problem become more acute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re not only being too cynical but thinking too much &#8220;big power politics&#8221; when it comes to climate change: this isn&#8217;t nuclear disarmament we&#8217;re talking about, with a noisy but almost entirely uninfluential public. Climate change is being tackled  &#8211; and will need to be tackled &#8211; at many many different levels from individuals to corporates to local and regional governments as well as the big states. Do you not think the views of consumers impacted on M and S&#8217;s Plan A? Doesn&#8217;t express business concern over global warming impact on Tory or indeed Labour party thinking? And of course the actions of the Governors of a number of US states have impacted strongly on the centre and left of US political thinking at national level. </p>
<p>There is no nirvana on Climate (although the Indians will listen to Obama and indeed are very clear about what they want to cut a deal) but a whole lot of different interconnected actions and Carwyn or whoever wins next month will have a role to play. They will be the nearest Wales has to a voice on this issue (outwards and inwards), they will decide which of the difficult initial radical choices Wales takes on sustainability (and any sensible UK govnt will be encouraging trials at big city/devolved nation level) and will obviously take a key role in how far the response to climate change impacts acrss a range of domestic policies. Carwyn&#8217;s stance is arguably smart politics too, climate is a totem issue for many educated young people who will be voting in increased numbers as they get older and as the symptoms of the problem become more acute.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jones</title>
		<link>http://waleshome.org/2009/11/carwyn-pledges-to-lead-from-the-front/comment-page-1/#comment-2521</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not being too cynical but as the late great Joe Stalin would put it when told that the Pope was concerned about an issue. &#039;How many divisions has the Pope got?&#039; Is anyone taking notice of what the Minister President of Baden Wuttermburg is saying on global warming or the Governor of Arizona for that matter? We are talking about the person who will become the leader of a small group of regional politicians not some guru who will lead the world to nirvana. The Indians and the Chinese are not going to take much notice of Obama let alone someone from&#039; little ole Wales. &#039; We can all get a little carried away with this leadership election when it is clear from the You Gov poll you quoted in another thread that most people don&#039;t have an opinion basically because they don&#039;t know who the candiates are. The same poll asked respondents who they thought would win the X factor. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised  that everybody had an opinion on that earth shattering issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not being too cynical but as the late great Joe Stalin would put it when told that the Pope was concerned about an issue. &#8216;How many divisions has the Pope got?&#8217; Is anyone taking notice of what the Minister President of Baden Wuttermburg is saying on global warming or the Governor of Arizona for that matter? We are talking about the person who will become the leader of a small group of regional politicians not some guru who will lead the world to nirvana. The Indians and the Chinese are not going to take much notice of Obama let alone someone from&#8217; little ole Wales. &#8216; We can all get a little carried away with this leadership election when it is clear from the You Gov poll you quoted in another thread that most people don&#8217;t have an opinion basically because they don&#8217;t know who the candiates are. The same poll asked respondents who they thought would win the X factor. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised  that everybody had an opinion on that earth shattering issue.</p>
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