Boil it down to the fundamentals
HERE’S a joke that was popular once upon a time: A travelling salesman, the best in the business, finds himself out in the wilds of Wales. He knocks at a remote farmhouse and when the door is opened, he flies into his tried-and tested routine. Pushing past the careworn woman stood on the threshold, he strides into the living room and pulls a bag of dust from inside his case.
Tipping its contents on the floor, he declares: “Madam, I sell the finest vacuum cleaner in the world. If it won’t pick up every piece of dust I’ve dropped, I’ll eat what’s left.” The farmer’s wife takes a look at the dust on the floor before heading for the door: “I’ll get you a spoon, then. We don’t have any electricity.”
Once the dust settled last Wednesday, one or two devolutionists might have been left wondering what they have to sell to a public still questioning whether it needs something it hasn’t got – and whether it is worth it.
Before any Yes campaign gets underway, it’s worth remembering that it will be appealing to an electorate with much-changed views on the political process and with not a little scepticism towards politicians. Because of the MPs’ expenses row, because of the unprecedented bailout of the UK banking industry, and because of the corresponding impact on public sector spending anticipated as early as 2010, we should expect a far harsher weighing of cost against benefit from voters. But despite such close inspection, it will be the population of Wales that will ultimately decide on the future direction of Wales in any referendum, not the political classes of Cardiff Bay.
Many have already voiced views that what is being asked for is a relatively small issue, a matter of procedure. Consequently, they argue, a referendum might be a waste of time. It’s easy for a devolutionist to become frustrated by such a response, particularly if you believe in independence. After all, this moving from Part 3 to Part 4 of the Government of Wales Act, the end of the bureaucratic and unnecessarily-involved Legislative Competence Order (LCO) system is something of a halfway house.
It has been a full five years since Lord Richard mooted primary law-making powers, an expanded Assembly, and the possibility of tax-varying powers. At the time, the First Minister said there should be no “rush to judgement” on its findings. Giving him the benefit of the doubt has meant it has taken half a decade to begin seriously considering just part of Lord Richards’ recommendations.
However, it is very hard to win the Yes argument by looking back over the shoulder. Complaining about what we could have had, or didn’t have because of the political climate at the time, isn’t going to win the argument for greater powers – greater autonomy – for Wales, because people don’t want to hear it. They will give a fair hearing to the sceptics who have decided to focus on the cost implications of further but almost routinely incremental changes. They are asking whether such a small step is worth it now. Perhaps the whole wider issue of government spending will swing voters away from “Why not?” and back towards “Why?”
As such, the Yes campaign could find itself on trial. In fact, there is a good argument that the campaign needs to be planned for such an emergency – a case of planning for the worst, hoping for the best. It needs to prepare the argument – and prove it – that remaining at a standstill will be a greater waste of money for Wales. The Convention report provides the evidence base from which it can be argued that the current system is largely unworkable.
If it does end up in the dock, the Yes campaign needs to grandstand, to ask the big questions. And it also needs to learn the lesson of the vacuum cleaner salesman. It needs to sell the benefits of why more powers for Wales will in fact help achieve the goals of social justice and the economy. And it must banish the myth that devolution is too high brow, too focused on in-depth constitutional positioning for the voter to bother about.
The first question is short and to the point: Do you want decisions about Wales made in Wales, or in Westminster? This is what this referendum surely comes to when it is boiled down to the fundamentals. It is at the heart of the issue. It’s the Oliver begging bowl question. Should we have to undergo trial by subservience, begging these London masters for more powers at every juncture, or can we get on with the job here in Wales?
At present, the LCO system relies far too heavily on the whims of sometimes poorly-informed parliamentarians who speculate on how the Assembly would apply the powers we are requesting, not whether it is right or not that we have them. Is it right, when the Assembly has so many ground-breaking ways of directly taking soundings from the electorate – such as the petitions committee on which I sit – that politicians whose constituencies are not even situated in Wales should have input into what would serve this country best? Since none of us are likely to offer governments in other parts of the UK advice on how to best manage their affairs, this is presumption of the worst kind, not least because it can have an impact on lives here. And it is quite different from the Welsh body politic giving an opinion on an issue such as Trident because, ultimately, such a decision affect us, too. It carries none of the lord-of-the-manor connotations of teeth-sucking Tories on the Welsh Affairs Committee.
Voters may have concerns about the political make-up of the Assembly or about its individual members. But the time to do something about that comes at election level, not a referendum on future powers. As such, voters will have to do a bit of looking forward to imagine how a more powerful Assembly will implement more wide-ranging laws.
The Yes campaign will also need to case study prospective legislation and map out its route into being. For example, there is an environmental LCO that has recently entered the system, and which will give the Assembly powers to legislate over waste dumped at sea, among other things. Let us suppose that the Assembly could cut right back on the two-year average that it takes an LCO to navigate the system that was outlined here last week. What could be done in that saved time?
A number of beaches could be cleaned up and given Blue Flag or other environmental status standards. This would allow fresh marketing of those shorelines, both individually and at national level, perhaps inward investment and other economic benefits for those areas. This may happen in due course. But in the meantime, areas across the rest of the UK that could compete with Welsh resorts and seaside towns may be already moving ahead, and there is only a finite pool of money that tourists and investors have to spend.
Of course, this is just hypothesis, which is why the Yes campaign must base any claims of lives improved as a consequence of additional powers in fact. This does not mean for a minute that we should use this mechanism to justify why we have an Assembly in the first place. That argument has been fought and won. It shouldn’t either be merely about headline policies like free bus passes for the elderly, or legacy plans implemented by Welsh ministers. Telling the people of Wales what we are doing in the here and now should be enough to confirm that we can be confident enough as a nation to take on more powers, and to use them well.
Tourism and economic development is just one area where the Assembly can improve matters. There are a plethora of LCOs in existence at present that cover areas as diverse as combating child poverty, improving mental health services, ensuring public transport services, better rights for carers – even national flags on number plates. All of them devised here in Wales and all of them devised to benefit people here in Wales.
A Yes campaign by its very nature must be positive. Some people will regard this as a handicap, particularly if True Wales becomes ever more vociferous in what it says. There is already some discussion among Yes campaigners about the best way of dealing with contrary untruths. In fact, the best way to deal with untruths is to forensically disprove them, one-by-one. It’s another reason why the Yes campaign must be sure of its facts.
But there is perhaps space for a little negativity, even if only as a parting shot, as it is here. Not only should people ask themselves before the referendum if they want their law making done in Wales. They should also ask if it is fair that devolution in both Scotland and Northern Ireland should continue to move at a quicker pace than in Wales, albeit in very different ways. What does that say about how Wales is regarded? Are we really less capable of governing ourselves? What, in the past decade of devolution, convinces the Westminster government that this holds true?
It is certainly worth asking, as it may help us all when we begin the journey beyond the referendum, to the next stage of devolution. After all, all of us agree that this is a journey Wales is taking. It is the speed of that journey that we disagree upon.


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In my opinion, the reason why the Untrue Wales campaign has been relatively successful to date, is that they have concentrated on one or two simple issues (however misleading) and have used the public’s mistrust of politics to their advantage.
If we are to be successful we need to simplify our message (no more discussions about Part 4, Schedule X, LCO process etc) just keep it simple.
=> We want decisions made in Wales – by the people of Wales – for the benefit of Wales
=> Twist the anti-politician feeling to our advantage by making it anti-Westminster – Clean Cardiff or slimy Wasteminster?
=> Stress that Scotland alreay has more powers than Wales and has done for the last 10 years – why are we being treated as second-class citizens?
But we need to set the aganda – not have it dictated to by some unionist love-in between reactionary conservatives and ageing Labour dinosaurs
Oh dear.
“This is what this referendum surely comes to when it is boiled down to the fundamentals. It is at the heart of the issue. It’s the Oliver begging bowl question. Should we have to undergo trial by subservience, begging these London masters for more powers at every juncture, or can we get on with the job here in Wales?”
As a supporter of more powers this just annoys me.
These are the tired arguments of independence; most normal people do not view things this way.
If we base our campaign around this it will be divisive and unsuccessful, putting people of and leaving us with the rump about 8% who support independence.
We cannot afford to scare people off with this colonialism crap, this is not about separating us from the English who lets face it make up a large minority of the Welsh electorate. We need to bring these people with us, with sensible pragmatic arguments explaining how more powers will benefit them.
Put the flag down Bethan and join us in the land of the normal.
Firstly it would be good to revisit the lessons we learned on the first YES campaign:
- That was cross party and very non political
- This referendum is not a political football
It needs to be looked at from the view of whom we are asking, not the bubble deciding what it needs to ask.
I agree we need sensible relevant arguements and we need to sell the benefits to people in Wales – all of the people irrespective of ethnicity, economic circumstances etc. This will be won on a popular,not political vote. Fronting it with politicians is not the way. Maybe a recognisable, Welsh personality or personalities would be key. As I said, this is about PR and Marketing and not manifestos and rhetoric.
Agree with Michael there. I would go as far as to say that a referendum could well be won or lost on the perceived attitude of the yes campaign – either mock those who are unsure with tags like Colonialists and lose their votes, whilst enabling the no campaign to raise the sceptre of independence. Or, encourage people on board with a rational, reasoned policy-based argument. There may be those tempted towards the former, but if they indulge in self-indulgent fantasy politics, it will come at a cost. Agree with VM there too – but remember, whilst the yes campaign was collegiate, remember the role that party loyalty played – eg the whole Vote yes, vote Blair thing – as much as some people hate to admit it,
It’s astonishing that we have to waste a referendum on such an issue. It’s just a process rationalisation. I wish Syr Em had had a look at Calman type powers (beyond his remit I know but he was blathering about the Police!!)
There’s one thing I take issue with in this post, where Bethan asks:
“Do you want decisions about Wales made in Wales, or in Westminster?”
What I’m not sure of is what exactly are the decisions made about Wales? Scotland has always had its own legal system and various other uniquely Scottish system (EG, they use their own FE qualifications whilst the rest of us use A-Levels), so there are certainly Scottish affairs in politics. Meanwhile, Northern Ireland is recovering from 3 decades of violent conflict and needs a united community effort to help re-build – so there are certainly Northern Ireland affairs. But I can’t think of any political decisions that affecta all of Wales and only Wales. Perhaps tourism and the Welsh language count, but what other Welsh affairs are there?
Bethan goes on to list these policy areas:
“combating child poverty, improving mental health services, ensuring public transport services, better rights for carers – even national flags on number plates”
These are certainly important areas but I don’t understand how they are uniquely Welsh affairs. Surely the problems encountered by mental health patients are no different in Wales than they are anywhere else in the UK? What reason is there for the Assembly to make decisions on these matters if they are exactly the same as the decisions affecting England, Scotland and Northern Ireland? I would have thought the british government and local councils would be better off making these decisions, if only for the efficiency of having one authority addressing them rather than three or four.
I don’t intend to argue against your points as such, I don’t have a dedicated opinion on the welsh assembly. Rather, I find that these are questions that have simply been left unanswered by all sides involved since day one. I find too many statements are going unexplained.